{"id":271299,"date":"2020-10-09T00:42:08","date_gmt":"2020-10-09T04:42:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/?p=271299"},"modified":"2020-10-09T00:42:08","modified_gmt":"2020-10-09T04:42:08","slug":"in-debate-pence-and-harris-offer-conflicting-views-of-nations-reality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/2020\/10\/09\/in-debate-pence-and-harris-offer-conflicting-views-of-nations-reality\/","title":{"rendered":"In Debate, Pence and Harris Offer Conflicting Views of Nation\u2019s Reality"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_224123\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-224123\" style=\"width: 1000px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/shutterstock_1111824998.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-224123\" src=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/shutterstock_1111824998.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"667\" srcset=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/shutterstock_1111824998.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/shutterstock_1111824998-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-224123\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Our partners at PolitiFact broke down a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/article\/2020\/oct\/08\/fact-checking-2020-vice-presidential-debate-kamala\/\">whole gamut of claims<\/a> \u2014 on fracking, the economic recovery and the Supreme Court. The highlights regarding health care and coronavirus policies follow: (Shutterstock Photo)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Trump administration\u2019s pandemic response: decisive action that saved lives, or the greatest failure of any presidential administration? During Wednesday\u2019s vice presidential debate, Vice President Mike Pence and the Democratic challenger, Sen. Kamala Harris of California, offered drastically different takes \u2014 from behind\u00a0 plexiglass screens \u2014 on how the president has handled the COVID-19 crisis.<\/p>\n<p>Pence touted problematic claims, such as that President Donald Trump\u2019s ban on travel from China helped the nation respond to the coronavirus (PolitiFact rated <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/apr\/03\/jesse-watters\/are-covid-19-travel-restrictions-more-critical-sav\/\">a similar claim<\/a> \u201cFalse\u201d) and that the country would have a vaccine in less than a year (the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said a vaccine, yet to be approved, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/article\/2020\/sep\/17\/fact-checking-joe-biden-coronavirus-vaccine\/\">will not be widely available until next year<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Harris said the Trump administration misled the public about how serious the virus is, pointing to briefings Trump and Pence received in January. Trump <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump\/2020\/09\/09\/0368fe3c-efd2-11ea-b4bc-3a2098fc73d4_story.html\">told journalist Bob Woodward<\/a> in a recorded interview that he purposely downplayed it.<\/p>\n<p>Our partners at PolitiFact broke down a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/article\/2020\/oct\/08\/fact-checking-2020-vice-presidential-debate-kamala\/\">whole gamut of claims<\/a> \u2014 on fracking, the economic recovery and the Supreme Court. The highlights regarding health care and coronavirus policies follow:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kamala Harris: \u201cThe president said [the coronavirus] was a hoax.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Rating: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/mar\/15\/joe-biden\/ad-watch-biden-video-twists-trumps-words-coronavir\/\">False<\/a> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This often-repeated statement falsely attributed to Trump has its roots in a Feb. 28 rally in North Carolina. But it\u2019s a mischaracterization of what he actually said, which was an attack on Democrats\u2019 response to the virus.<\/p>\n<p>Trump cast the Democrats\u2019 criticism of his work as foisting a hoax on the public. \u201cThey tried the impeachment hoax,\u201d he said. \u201cThat was not a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They\u2019d been doing it since you got in. It\u2019s all turning. They lost. It\u2019s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mike Pence: The Rose Garden event with Judge Amy Coney Barrett \u201cwas an outdoor event, which all of our scientists regularly and routinely advised.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Wrong<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The event included an indoor component, during which Trump, Barrett and others posed for photos without masks. Public health officials do say outdoor activities are less risky \u2014 provided masks are worn \u2014 than indoor events, where it might be harder to keep people apart and there\u2019s less ventilation. But attendees of the Sept. 26 White House event for the nomination of Barrett to the Supreme Court <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apimages.com\/metadata\/Index\/Supreme-Court-Trump\/2024a232c61f43a6bae0ee6bc18c6d23\/409\/0\">did not<\/a> practice social distancing, and many did not wear masks throughout the event.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pence: Trump \u201csuspended all travel from China. \u2026 Joe Biden opposed that decision. He called it xenophobic and hysterical.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Misleading<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/article\/2020\/aug\/27\/fact-checking-night-three-2020-rnc\/\">were exemptions in Trump\u2019s travel restrictions on China.<\/a> On Jan. 21, the CDC confirmed the first U.S. case of the new coronavirus: a patient in Washington state who had traveled from Wuhan, China. On Jan. 31, the Trump administration announced a ban on travelers from China, but it exempted several categories of people, including U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents. It took effect Feb. 2.<\/p>\n<p>According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2020\/04\/04\/us\/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.html\">The New York Times<\/a>, about 40,000 people traveled from China to the United States in the two months after Trump announced travel restrictions, and 60% of people on direct flights from China were not U.S. citizens.<\/p>\n<p>As for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/mar\/27\/donald-trump\/fact-checking-whether-biden-called-trump-xenophobi\/\">\u201cxenophobic and hysterical\u201d comment<\/a>, Biden has not directly said the travel restrictions were xenophobic. Around the time the Trump administration announced the restrictions, Biden said Trump had a \u201crecord of hysteria, xenophobia and fearmongering.\u201d Biden also used the word \u201cxenophobic\u201d in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China in which the president described the coronavirus as the \u201cChinese virus.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Harris: Obama \u201ccreated within the White House an office that basically was responsible for monitoring pandemics. They got rid of it. There was a team of disease experts that President Obama and Vice President Biden dispatched to China to monitor what is now predictable and what might happen. They pulled them out.\u201d <\/strong><strong>Largely accurate<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Harris described two pieces of Washington\u2019s operation to protect against new viral threats. There was a division within the White House National Security Council. And there was a CDC office in China.<\/p>\n<p>In May 2018, the top White House official in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics left the administration. Then-national security adviser John Bolton reorganized the White House global health team. Homeland security adviser Tom Bossert, who recommended strong defenses against disease and biological warfare, had left in April 2018. Neither Bossert nor the official overseeing the U.S. pandemic response was replaced. Nor were their teams, some of whose responsibilities were farmed out to other corners of the administration.<\/p>\n<p>In China, the CDC program specifically charged with spotting new infectious diseases went from four American staff members in 2017 to none by 2019.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pence: Biden\u2019s \u201cown chief of staff, Ron Klain, would say last year that it was pure luck, that they did everything possible wrong [with H1N1]. And we learned from that.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Needs context<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Klain, Biden\u2019s former chief of staff, spoke about H1N1 during a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.c-span.org\/video\/?c4906375\/user-clip-ron-klain-pandemic-biosecurity-policy-summit\">biosecurity conference in May 2019<\/a>: \u201cA bunch of really talented, really great people working on it, and we did every possible thing wrong. And it\u2019s, you know, 60 million Americans got H1N1 in that period of time. And it\u2019s just purely a fortuity that this isn\u2019t one of the great mass casualty events in American history. It had nothing to do with us doing anything right. It just had to do with luck.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Klain has since told <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2020\/05\/04\/joe-biden-contain-h1n1-virus-232992\">Politico<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.factcheck.org\/2020\/09\/trump-spins-quotes-by-about-biden\/\">FactCheck.org<\/a> that his comments were taken out of context, and that they were specifically in reference to the Obama administration\u2019s difficulties meeting the public demand for an H1N1 vaccine. He was not talking about Biden directly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pence: The Obama administration \u201cleft the strategic national stockpile empty.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Rating: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/apr\/08\/donald-trump\/trump-said-obama-admin-left-him-bare-stockpile-wro\/\">Mostly False<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The Obama administration did not leave an \u201cempty\u201d national stockpile. Just months before COVID cases popped up in the U.S., the former director of the stockpile described it as an $8 billion enterprise with extensive holdings of many needed items. But N95 masks, for example, had been depleted after the H1N1 outbreak in 2009.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pence: On the nation\u2019s COVID response, \u201cthe reality is, when you look at the Biden plan, it reads an awful lot like what President Trump and I and our task force have been doing every step of the way.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Misleading <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>At first glance, the <a href=\"https:\/\/joebiden.com\/covid-plan\/\">Biden plan<\/a> does track closely with some of the talking points advanced by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/article\/2020\/oct\/06\/donald-trump-issues-politifact-guide\/\">Trump<\/a> administration: the need to develop and distribute a vaccine, provide COVID tests free, reduce costs for COVID treatments, and produce necessary protective equipment and ventilators. But Biden\u2019s plan proposes many other priorities that the Trump administration has not pursued. Biden also has, throughout the campaign, followed recommendations about mask-wearing and social distancing that the administration has defied \u2014 a pattern that\u2019s being blamed for Trump\u2019s own infection with COVID-19 and the outbreak at the White House.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pence: The Obama administration \u201cleft an empty and hollow plan.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Misleading<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The Obama administration <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/may\/14\/mitch-mcconnell\/evidence-counters-mcconnell-claim-obama-team-left-\/\">left a \u201cplaybook\u201d<\/a> that detailed steps to take in the event of an infectious disease outbreak. The 69-page document from 2016 was a National Security Council guidebook created to assist leaders \u201cin coordinating a complex U.S. government response to a high-consequence emerging disease threat anywhere in the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Harris: \u201cToday they still don\u2019t have a plan\u201d to deal with the pandemic.<\/strong><strong>Needs context <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Biden said <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/article\/2020\/sep\/30\/fact-checking-first-2020-presidential-debate-joe-b\/\">the same thing<\/a> during the first presidential debate. The Trump administration does have a plan to distribute vaccines once they are produced. But <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/article\/2020\/sep\/16\/ad-watch-joe-bidens-spanish-language-ad-says-donal\/\">experts say<\/a> the administration has failed to produce a national testing plan or a national strategy to address the COVID pandemic. The administration maintains its emphasis has been on helping the economy reopen. However, it has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/aug\/27\/mike-pence\/pence-rnc-speech-praises-trumps-covid-19-seamless-\/\">fallen short in executing<\/a> a coordinated response between the federal government and states to combat the coronavirus. More than 210,000 Americans have died of COVID-19, more deaths than in any other country.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pence (to Harris): \u201cThe fact that you continue to undermine public confidence in a vaccine, if a vaccine emerges during the Trump administration, I think is unconscionable.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Needs context <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Harris said during the debate that she would not take Trump\u2019s word that a vaccine is effective, insisting she would instead trust the opinion of an expert, such as Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases: \u201cI will be the first in line to take it, absolutely.\u201d Harris <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/health-coronavirus-usa-politics\/kamala-harris-says-trump-not-credible-on-possible-covid-19-vaccine-idUSKBN25X01L\">recently suggested<\/a> Trump would push a vaccine before it was ready to help his electoral chances. But Harris is voicing concerns shared by many Americans. Last month, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pewresearch.org\/science\/2020\/09\/17\/u-s-public-now-divided-over-whether-to-get-covid-19-vaccine\/\">a Pew poll found<\/a> Americans are divided on whether to get a COVID vaccine, with 78% saying they are worried it will be approved too quickly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Harris: \u201cThe president hasn\u2019t been transparent in terms of health records.\u201d <\/strong><strong>Accurate <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>After Trump announced his COVID diagnosis and was admitted to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for treatment, his physician, Dr. Sean Conley, briefed reporters on the president\u2019s health. Conley provided selective information and declined to answer questions, such as when the president first tested positive for the disease or the condition of his lungs. Conley said he couldn\u2019t share this information, citing HIPAA \u2014 the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996. <a href=\"https:\/\/khn.org\/news\/hipaa-federal-health-privacy-law-protection-president-trump\/\">Experts told us<\/a> HIPAA does prohibit Conley from sharing any health information the president hasn\u2019t authorized him to share. However, if Trump wanted his doctor to be transparent, he could waive HIPAA protections. Beyond the recent questions about his COVID infection, Trump has shared less general health information <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2020\/06\/04\/politics\/donald-trump-physical-health\/index.html\">than past presidents<\/a>. But no law requires presidents to disclose information about their health.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pence: Biden and Harris support abortion \u201call the way up to the moment of birth.\u201d<\/strong><strong>Misleading<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Biden and Harris have not said they support abortion up to the moment of birth. They say they support <em>Roe v. Wade,<\/em> the landmark Supreme Court case that legalized abortion while giving states the ability to regulate it after a certain point. Biden and Harris say they want to codify <em>Roe v. Wade<\/em> into law and are against state laws that they say violate the rulings in the case. Supporting <em>Roe<\/em> is not the same as supporting abortion up to the moment of birth, experts say.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBecause <em>Roe<\/em> allows states to prohibit abortion once a fetus is viable, agreement with the case does not indicate support for abortions \u2018up to the moment of birth,\u2019\u201d said Darren Hutchinson, a professor at the University of Florida\u2019s Levin College of Law.<\/p>\n<p><em>KHN reporters Emmarie Huetteman and Victoria Knight and PolitiFact staff writers Daniel Funke, Jon Greenberg, Louis Jacobson, Noah Y. Kim, Bill McCarthy, Samantha Putterman, Amy Sherman and Miriam Valverde contributed to this report.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/khn.org\/morning-briefing\/\">Subscribe<\/a> to KHN&#8217;s free Morning Briefing.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ssl.google-analytics.com\/collect?v=1&amp;t=event&amp;ec=Republish&amp;tid=UA-53070700-2&amp;z=1602218018605&amp;cid=67c89c77-4e51-42f8-b67b-2d8820313415&amp;ea=https%3A%2F%2Fkhn.org%2Fnews%2Fvice-presidential-debate-pence-and-harris-offer-conflicting-views-of-nations-reality%2F&amp;el=In%20Debate%2C%20Pence%20and%20Harris%20Offer%20Conflicting%20Views%20of%20Nation%27s%20Reality\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Trump administration\u2019s pandemic response: decisive action that saved lives, or the greatest failure of any presidential administration? 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