{"id":235409,"date":"2019-10-22T01:30:27","date_gmt":"2019-10-22T05:30:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/?p=235409"},"modified":"2019-10-22T01:30:27","modified_gmt":"2019-10-22T05:30:27","slug":"trump-viewed-ukraine-as-adversary-not-ally-witnesses-say","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/2019\/10\/22\/trump-viewed-ukraine-as-adversary-not-ally-witnesses-say\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump viewed Ukraine as adversary, not ally, witnesses say"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_178806\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-178806\" style=\"width: 2048px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/32744156000_30304b5a0d_k.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-178806\" src=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/32744156000_30304b5a0d_k.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2048\" height=\"1365\" srcset=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/32744156000_30304b5a0d_k.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/32744156000_30304b5a0d_k-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/32744156000_30304b5a0d_k-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/32744156000_30304b5a0d_k-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/32744156000_30304b5a0d_k-20x13.jpg 20w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-178806\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">FILE: President of the United States Donald J. Trump at CPAC 2017 February 24th 2017 by Michael Vadon (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/80038275@N00\/32744156000\/in\/photolist-RTumMN-24cJg64-SpAb5Q-SthHvX-SrihxY-S6fehU-SBpYzJ-237UrjS-24cJfK4-ExzD76-237UqpL-28PqR4X-24cJeEi-28PqRaP-2a8eKwN-LAY1rb-27mQPZe-WVEtyg-28JKoQH-yPyPh7-WkfMUG-YFXaMi-LAXZHN-27mQQBM-24mbcft-FHDY8r-K5MVyn-27mQPfD-27mQLKt-27DfsPJ-28JKprT-25YJV5b-21ZZdBz-Nb1pSb-25YJW9f-25YJVhL-P12pE3-2a8eJFu-2a8eKY9-27rEHc1-2a8eKUm-2a8eL4E-27rEG1d-Lry3fc-N55Muq-Lry3n6-2a8eKDG-27rEHwu-27rEGoh-Lry2tc\">Photo<\/a>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/80038275@N00\/\">Michael Vadon\/Flickr<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by\/2.0\/\">CC BY 2.0<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>WASHINGTON \u2014 Behind closed doors, President Donald Trump has made his views on Ukraine clear: \u201cThey tried to take me down.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The president, according to people familiar with testimony in the House impeachment investigation, sees the Eastern European ally, not Russia, as responsible for the interference in the 2016 election that was investigated by special counsel Robert Mueller.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a view denied by the intelligence community, at odds with U.S. foreign policy and dismissed by many of Trump&#8217;s fellow Republicans. But Trump&#8217;s belief suggests the extent to which his approach to Ukraine &#8212; including his request, now central to impeachment, that the Ukraine president do him a \u201cfavour\u201d and investigate Democrats \u2014 was colored by a long-running, unproven conspiracy theory that has circulated online and in some corners of conservative media.<\/p>\n<p>On Monday, Trump derided the impeachment probe anew as a \u201cwitch hunt,\u201d insisting that he did nothing wrong in his phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.<\/p>\n<p>But those testifying in the impeachment inquiry, now entering its fifth week, are recalling that Trump&#8217;s views on Ukraine were seen as a problem by some in the administration.<\/p>\n<p>Some of those testifying recalled a May meeting at the White House when U.S. officials, just back from attending Zelenskiy&#8217;s inauguration in Kyiv, briefed Trump.<\/p>\n<p>Ambassador to the European Union Gordan Sondland, special envoy Kurt Volker and other witnesses have described Trump as suspicious of Ukraine despite well-established American support for the fledgling democracy there. That&#8217;s according to publicly released transcripts, as well as people familiar with the private testimony to impeachment investigators. They were granted anonymity to discuss it.<\/p>\n<p>Several witnesses have testified that Trump believed Ukraine wanted to destroy his presidency.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPresident Trump was skeptical,\u201d Sondland testified, according to his written remarks. Sondland said that only later did he understand that Trump, by connecting the Ukrainians with his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, was interested in probing the 2016 election as well as the family of his potential 2020 rival, Joe Biden.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was apparent to all of us that the key to changing President Trump&#8217;s mind on Ukraine was Mr. Giuliani.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>House Democrats launched the impeachment inquiry after a whistleblower filed a complaint that included Trump&#8217;s July call with Zelenskiy. The call was placed the day after Mueller testified to Congress and brought an end to the two-year Trump-Russia probe.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it,\u201d Trump told Zelenskiy, according to a rough transcript of the call released by the White House.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike,\u201d Trump said. \u201cThe server, they say Ukraine has it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Trump was airing the conspiracy-theory view, shared by Giuliani, that the security firm CrowdStrike, which was hired by the Democratic National Committee to investigate the 2016 hack of its email, may have had ties to Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>CrowdStrike determined in June 2016 that Russian agents had broken into the committee&#8217;s network and stolen emails that were subsequently published by WikiLeaks. The firm&#8217;s findings were confirmed by FBI investigators and helped lead to Mueller&#8217;s indictments of 12 individuals from Russia&#8217;s military intelligence agency.<\/p>\n<p>But the loose conspiracy theory contends that the DNC email hack was a set-up, bolstered by fake computer records, designed to cast blame on Russia. Even the president&#8217;s Republican allies have tried to dissuade Trump from it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;ve never been a CrowdStrike fan; I mean this whole thing of a server,\u201d said Republican Rep. Mark Meadows of North Carolina last week.<\/p>\n<p>Meadows, a confidant of Trump, said he&#8217;s sure Ukraine had some role in the U.S. election. But he views the search for the email server as farfetched. \u201cI would not on my dime, send a private attorney looking for some server in a foreign country,\u201d Meadows told reporters.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps contributing to the conspiracy theories surrounding CrowdStrike and the DNC is the fact that the FBI never took possession of the actual computer server that would have held the hacked emails.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, the FBI relied on the forensics provided by CrowdStrike.<\/p>\n<p>The FBI had \u201crepeatedly stressed\u201d to the DNC its desire to have access to servers, former FBI Director James Comey testified at a March 2017 hearing before a House panel. But he acknowledged it is not unusual for the FBI to use such forensics in place of the actual hard drive during cyber investigations.<\/p>\n<p>Other Republicans have also tried to convince Trump it was not Ukraine that was involved.<\/p>\n<p>Trump&#8217;s former homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert, said Giuliani had done Trump a disservice by pushing the false story.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am deeply frustrated with what he and the legal team is doing and repeating that debunked theory to the president,\u201d Bossert said in September on ABC. \u201cIt sticks in his mind when he hears it over and over again,\u201d said Bossert, who also was an adviser to President George W. Bush. \u201cThat conspiracy theory has got to go; they have to stop with that; it cannot continue to be repeated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>On the call, Trump went on to ask Zelenskiy to also look into Burisma, the Ukraine gas company with links to his 2020 presidential rival, Joe Biden&#8217;s family. Biden&#8217;s son, Hunter, served on the board when the former vice-president was the Obama administration&#8217;s main emissary to Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>Last week, Trump&#8217;s acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney acknowledged that Trump essentially engaged in a quid pro quo in seeking Zelenskiy&#8217;s help in exchange for military aid the White House was withholding from Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>Mulvaney said the request was not improper because Trump wanted help with the 2016 investigation rather than looking ahead to 2020. It is against the law to seek or receive help of value from a foreign entity in U.S. elections.<\/p>\n<p>Mulvaney later clarified his comments, saying, \u201cThe president never told me to withhold any money until the Ukrainians did anything related to the server.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Associated Press writer Eric Tucker in Washington contributed to this story.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WASHINGTON \u2014 Behind closed doors, President Donald Trump has made his views on Ukraine clear: \u201cThey tried to take me &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":44,"featured_media":178806,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16,17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-235409","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-news","category-news-w","mauthors-lisa-mascaro","mauthors-mary-clare-jalonick","mauthors-the-associated-press"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/235409","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/44"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=235409"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/235409\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":235411,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/235409\/revisions\/235411"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/178806"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=235409"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=235409"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=235409"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}