{"id":124097,"date":"2017-10-15T23:26:07","date_gmt":"2017-10-16T03:26:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/?p=124097"},"modified":"2017-10-15T23:26:07","modified_gmt":"2017-10-16T03:26:07","slug":"as-u-s-shocks-with-nafta-demands-other-countries-asking-what-does-trump-want","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/2017\/10\/15\/as-u-s-shocks-with-nafta-demands-other-countries-asking-what-does-trump-want\/","title":{"rendered":"As U.S. shocks with NAFTA demands, other countries asking: What does Trump want?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_100807\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-100807\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Donald-Trump-17.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-100807\" src=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Donald-Trump-17.jpg\" alt=\"FILE: Upon leaving those rooms, people are saying the exact opposite. The No. 1 discussion topic at this current round is whether Melle's team is being ordered to sabotage the talks, so President Donald Trump can declare NAFTA has failed. (Photo: Gage Skidmore\/Flickr)\" width=\"510\" height=\"340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Donald-Trump-17.jpg 510w, https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Donald-Trump-17-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-100807\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">FILE: Upon leaving those rooms, people are saying the exact opposite. The No. 1 discussion topic at this current round is whether Melle&#8217;s team is being ordered to sabotage the talks, so President Donald Trump can declare NAFTA has failed. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/gageskidmore\/32758260270\/\">Photo<\/a>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/gageskidmore\/\">Gage Skidmore\/Flickr<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/\">CC BY-SA 2.0<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>ARLINGTON, United States \u2014 The chief U.S. negotiator shrugged his shoulders when asked about signs of trouble in the NAFTA talks on Sunday. John Melle pulled open a door, entered a work room, and offered a one-word reply about how it&#8217;s going.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFabulous,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Upon leaving those rooms, people are saying the exact opposite. The No. 1 discussion topic at this current round is whether Melle&#8217;s team is being ordered to sabotage the talks, so President Donald Trump can declare NAFTA has failed.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s because the U.S. team has unfurled a half-dozen bombshells so far beyond the realm of what&#8217;s palatable to the other parties that it&#8217;s all but exploded earlier hopes of a quick, easy negotiation.<\/p>\n<p>The other countries are scrutinizing the body language of U.S. negotiators as they present ideas like a sunset clause that could end NAFTA after five years; ask to gut the deal&#8217;s enforcement mechanisms; and pursue non-starter ideas on dairy, textiles, automobiles and Buy American rules.<\/p>\n<p>Some of these American negotiators built the very agreement they&#8217;re now proposing to strip down. Melle has even praised NAFTA&#8217;s successes. One non-U.S. official described the body language of American negotiators as: \u201cKind of sheepish. They say, &#8216;We don&#8217;t have any flexibility on this.\u201d&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>Another used an analogy: \u201cThe (U.S.) negotiators are like lawyers who hate their clients.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Everyone is now watching Donald Trump.<\/p>\n<p>The president has repeatedly stated his desire to invoke NAFTA&#8217;s termination clause, allowing him to cancel the deal on six months&#8217; notice, in order to scare other countries into making concessions.<\/p>\n<p>It would fit a tactic Trump has been accused of: Break now, fix later.<\/p>\n<p>Critics have said Trump used this strategy on health care, undocumented young migrants, and the Iran nuclear deal \u2014 breaking an existing policy, then ordering others to put together a replacement, in a hurry, before a deadline hits, and chaos ensues.<\/p>\n<p>Could he try it on NAFTA?<\/p>\n<p>A front-page New York Times article on Sunday on Trump&#8217;s approach concludes with an analyst comparing Iran and NAFTA.<\/p>\n<p>Iran&#8217;s foreign minister sees parallels himself.<\/p>\n<p>Javad Zarif linked the NAFTA scrap to the one involving his country in an interview that aired Sunday: \u201cThis administration is withdrawing from everything. Somebody called it the, &#8216;Withdrawal Doctrine,&#8217; for this administration. It&#8217;s withdrawing from NAFTA. It&#8217;s withdrawing from Trans Pacific Partnership. It&#8217;s withdrawing from UNESCO,\u201d Zarif said in a CBS interview.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo people cannot trust anymore the word of the United States. You see, in order to bring United States on board for many of these international agreements, a lot of people make a lot of concessions. Now nobody is going to make any concessions to the United States because they know that the next U.S. president will come back and say, &#8216;It wasn&#8217;t enough.\u201d&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>The Canadian and Mexican governments intend to sit through the storm.<\/p>\n<p>They say there are no plans to walk out, or make aggressive counter-demands, like pushing their own non-starters \u2014 such as free trade in softwood lumber. They say they&#8217;re better off working patiently.<\/p>\n<p>Officials do profess to being perplexed about Trump&#8217;s goal.<\/p>\n<p>Several Canadians said it&#8217;s unclear: Is Trump trying to get other countries to leave the table, declare talks have failed, and invoke NAFTA&#8217;s six-month termination clause? Or is this just overly dramatic early bargaining \u2014 a la, \u201cArt of the Deal\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>But one thing is increasingly clear, they say: hopes are fading for a quick deal by Christmas.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDo we want a deal? Yes. Do we want a quick deal? Yes,\u201d one official said. \u201cBut are we gonna take any deal just to wrap up quickly? Obviously not. If it takes more time, it takes more time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The initial rush for an agreement was prompted by the political calendar, as some worried that if a deal wasn&#8217;t completed by the time national election campaigns start in Mexico and the U.S. next year, it won&#8217;t happen before 2019.<\/p>\n<p>And that would mean an extra year of uncertainty watching Trump \u2014 scrutinizing whether he&#8217;s readying to pull the plug on NAFTA.<\/p>\n<p>That lingering uncertainty over NAFTA, coupled with homeowners&#8217; concerns about possible interest hikes, are acting as drags on an otherwise strong economy, the Bank of Canada governor said last weekend.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThese are sources of angst,\u201d Stephen Poloz told reporters.<\/p>\n<p>He said it&#8217;s hard to predict the economic impact of a NAFTA termination. He said the bank&#8217;s own models rely on research from people like Dan Ciuriak, who assesses the impact of different tariffs on business decision-making.<\/p>\n<p>Ciuriak used to run the computer-modelling unit at Canada&#8217;s foreign-affairs ministry. Now a private consultant, he happens to be working on such a study about what would happen under different scenarios \u2014 ranging from the end of NAFTA, to the end of all trade deals with the U.S.<\/p>\n<p>He&#8217;s still crunching the numbers, and won&#8217;t publish for another couple of weeks.<\/p>\n<p>But his early estimate is that ending free trade would slice 2.5 per cent from the Canadian economy. He says the initial shock might be more severe.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat&#8217;s the ballpark,\u201d said Ciuriak, who will publish his study with the C.D. Howe Institute.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat actual pathway to that (eventual) figure may be worse.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>ARLINGTON, United States \u2014 The chief U.S. negotiator shrugged his shoulders when asked about signs of trouble in the NAFTA &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":33,"featured_media":109792,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[24157,18,16,17],"tags":[9869,27934,19067],"class_list":["post-124097","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-american-news","category-news-ca","category-news","category-news-w","tag-donald-trump","tag-john-melle","tag-nafta","mauthors-alexander-panetta","mauthors-the-canadian-press"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/124097","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/33"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=124097"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/124097\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/109792"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=124097"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=124097"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/canadianinquirer.net\/v1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=124097"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}